0:00:00
Introduction
Richard Saunders

0:02:40
TAM 8 Interviews
Richard Saunders interviews
Banachek
http://www.banachek.org

0:19:50
Chatting to
Canberra Skeptics in the Pub

0:24:24
Dr Rachie Reports
Australian Anti-Vaccination Network
Rubbery Figures

0:41:20
THE THINK TANK -
Dr Rachael Dunlop, Joanne Benhamu,
Maynard, James, Jason & Richard Saunders

Direct download: the_skeptic_zone_96_100820.mp3
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Comments[5]

  • Hi Chris,
    You are correct. I would have had no problem with them demonstrating how science can be used to test any modality (including acupuncture). I felt they were presenting acupuncture as if it was a modality that was supported by the science - which it is not. These concerns were borne out by the contact I had with the Festival and the way the person who contacted me presented research which has been shown to be flawed as evidence of efficacy beyond placebo.

    posted by: Jo Benhamu on 2010-08-29 10:55:52

  • @Lucas, I think the point about Phil Plait was that, because he is an expert in astronomy, he feels he is also an expert in the fallacies of astrology.

    @Jo Benhamu, good on you for contacting the ppl at the Ultimo Science Festival about their acupuncture tours. It seemed to me (initially) you were missing the point a bit - I thought you were saying that a science festival was no place to highlight the application of science to acupuncture. I personally see no problem with conducting research into acupuncture - it is something amenable to the scientific method after all. Of course I think it is a poor allocation of funds that would otherwise be much spent better elsewhere, but it is something that can be studied with science.

    The problem (now that I've looked at the web site at

    http://www.ultimosciencefestival.com/usf10/?cat=9

    ) is that they are claiming that their science is showing positive benefits! "There’s more to acupuncture than meets the eye" they claim. So they are either being dishonest or are self-deluded, or just poor scientists. (Or they've come up with some wonderful new breakthrough in acupuncture research that will explain not only that acupuncture actually works reliably, but also why all the previous studies did not :) ). For these reasons I agree, it is not appropriate for their tours to be conducted as part of a festival highlighting science.

    Thank you for the podcast, and please keep up the excellent work!

    Cheers,
    Chris

    posted by: Chris Sol on 2010-08-26 23:35:31

  • The laughing in the Think Tank was pretty hard to take. (I enjoyed all other aspects of this podcast.)

    posted by: Dja on 2010-08-24 12:06:35

  • Sale of fireworks was banned in Canberra earlier this year.

    posted by: Mark on 2010-08-21 15:06:04

  • I'm pretty sure Banacheck meant to say Phil Plait's speciality is 'Astronomy', not 'Astrology' LOL :)

    posted by: Lucas Randall on 2010-08-21 09:32:44

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